Do you use
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Early Jewish Writings? Would you like to see an improvement of some kind--aesthetic, navigational, functional, or content-wise? Now is the time to be heard! I am devoting most of the next 6 weeks to providing an overhaul of these two popular sites. And I want to hear any suggestions about what you want, big or small. Please think about how you use the site, how that could be better, and what use you could get out of it that isn't even there now.
My brother-in-law is a graphic designer (who is not responsible for any of the ugliness currently on the site!), and I am quite good with web programming. (Update for those who saw the last design: I made some modifications to the graphics and layout to make
this new template--and don't be alarmed by the absence of a JavaScript menu, it can be added in. Also I am asking for much more than feedback on the look of the site.) Indeed, the one definite thing that I am going to do with the two website is to have them generated by a database (i.e., for each document, there would be entries for the translations associated with that document, the ancient language versions of that document, off-site informational pages on that document, on-site informational pages on that document, books on that document, various information on that document, and other related content--images, visitor comments, cross-references to other texts, whatever). This would allow me to do "touch once, change everywhere" design of the site--if you convince me to change the layout of a page, I could do it by changing a bit of code rather than editing a bunch of different HTML files. What does this mean for the end user? Just that I have a lot of time, skill, and dedication that will implement your suggestion (either in
a comment in this blog, in your own blog [why not give a link to it in a comment?], or in
an e-mail to me). Basically, your wish is my command.
295 Comments:
I will make the first comment here.
Among the things I want to do are:
* Give it an attractive look, with graphics, but not too heavy on download time. I have a mockup of one design that could be used.
* Improve navigation. Currently the (conjectural) chronology is prominent. There is also one page with an alphabetical index. The new method is a categorical index, as can be seen in the JavaScript menu (seen here). How to include two or three of these types of navigation is an open question.
* Make minor improvements, like including information on how to cite a particular translation of a document.
* Flesh out the "Information" sections. Suggestions?
And anything else that looks doable.
best,
Peter Kirby
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I absolutely love your site. I am a regular poster on Beliefnet and these pages continually. I think the scholarship here is excellent, and I always cite your address whenever I use things (to expand your user base and give you the props you deserve). If I can think of anyway to improve it I'll let you know.
Under theories of the Historical Jesus, you might want to add Tom Harpur's name under the Jesus Myth.. see The Pagan Christ
More original texts! I could help...
cweb255 - http://neonostalgia.com/bible/forums
WOW!! My dad was New Testament scholar. I LOVE this site!!
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content's great. just make it look professional and sweet is all. maybe a database-driven website using PHP or something? i dunno. no advertisements, also. anyway, biggest thing is just make it look professional and sweet. again, content is great... maybe add more writings more frequently? again, just a professional-looking site is all i really want to see as far as improvement goes.
An index of biblical verses would be incredibly helpful, though also difficult, I know.
I just wanted to say I think it's fabulous that you have these writings available online. Thank you so much, and may Yahweh richly bless you!
Donna
suffering in jonah
Please put up the Gospel of the Savior and the Gospel of Judas (if you can). I'd really love to see these on here. Great site!!!
film strips, video's and/or other visual helps
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Would it be possible to arrange the works by literary genre on a separate page?
Wikipedia's New Testament apocrypha articles could do with filling in/being created.
www.wikipedia.org
update it
hi
great site, frequent visitor!
I like the simple layout but non-techies might prefer something more colourful ;)
A place to suggest new texts?
Should all of Nag Hammadi included?
A forum would be interesting feature
Perhaps having the texts in table format, with extra columns, eg Orthadox/Gnostic/Secular
thanks for the site
Martin
I visit the site frequently.
It might be nice to have alternative means of navigation depending on why one visits. I come for help with preaching material. My prefered method is to find all materials relating to a particular (canonical)text. Those with a more scholarly purpose might want to use the chronological table. If not too labor intensive others might want to navigate towards a more devotional purpose. You have MASSIVE amounts of material and the more ways to get at it the better.
Bob Beckman
I heard reference to the Eulogy of Joseph given by Jesus at his earthly fathers death. Any Idea where to find it?
Thanks
Stu
It would be great if you could add Latin titles for each of the works of Philo, or a separate page with Latin titles. When someone is using TLG and would like to look at the English Text, it would be helpful to have a way for someone with no knowledge of Latin to be able to look quickly to find the corresponding book on your site.
I have told our students at Gordon-Conwell about your site, and they love it. The Latin/English issue is a problem, as we are a Protestant seminary that seems to devalue the language (except in our Church History dept).
Also, if you could somehow tag each paragraph number in the Philo set so that others may link to a specific paragraph on your page it would be helpful.
Thanks Peter, for a fantastic site!
~Jim Darlack
Goddard Library
Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary
I love the site. The only thing I'd change would be the heading graphic with the link options on it. I browsed the site for a months before I realized there was more content than what was displayed on the main page. Also, I've seen in books an 'Ethiopian Gospel of Gamaliel'. Its not 'early' but it is apocryphal. Keep up the good work.
Shep - slouchingpoet@hotmail.com
I wan't thank you, for this amazing web...
I search for Armenian infancy gospel, and 5 Macc.,
Robert from lithuania.
Thank you so much for your work here! Wouldn't it be nice if we could do a word search across selected the texts?
Hi,
Can I just take this opportunity to tell you how much I have enjoyed your site. I have spent many evenings over the past year studying its content and have really enjoyed it. It is a first class piece of work
Well done
i have a question...
there is a gospel called gospel of barnabas.in that gospel jesus is reported to have predicted the coming of mohammed.
now christians claim that the gospel of barnabas is a forgery and date that gospel to 13th century.
is it true?
What I would like to know is, who are you? What is your background? What sorts of credentials do you have? There are many groups who publish similar pages with agendas to perpetuate their faith, or scientific studies, or whatnot...A bit of an intro as to who you are and basis of your knowledge would be nice.
This is only a minor causmetic change, but maybe move the search feature to the top of the page instead of the bottom. I know a lot of people (myself at least) are more inclined to do a search before doing a browse. That way, it'd be right at the top for us to click on and use.
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what are important of aprocryphal to biblical history
i think with all these books you should publish
Would it be possible to produce audible recordings of these Early Christian writings and make the recordings available for sale via MP3 download or sale on CDs? Many of us don't have time to read anymore, and would find an audible collection extremely useful and enjoyable. Many of these surviving manuscripts are short, and you could put collections together on a single CD for sale to scholars, students, and the "hobbyist" like myself. (Perhaps group them by century, geographic area, or topic) There really isn't anybody out there doing this. The production quality doesn't have to be great.
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I would like to see Christian websites put a warning on their ordering page that if a person is maxed out on the credit cards - then they should send a check or M/O or use PayPal. Usury is a sin an the owners of a website shouldn't be aiding the banks in taking $18 billion a year from the Body of Messiah in interest payments.
That's what I will do on my website later this year (2005).
Your Servant,
Rabbi David Miller
Book of Zohar.....
Peter, the look and feel are very clean and easy to use. More graphics would only spoil it. Your scholarship and presentation are an inspiration to us lesser mortals. It's a tribute to your thoroughness that it is so difficult to make useful concrete suggestions.
passover
passover
First of all I want to thank you creating this site. I have used these writings to strengthen my faith and the faith of others! This is a big request, but a search engine that could be used to search for words or topics within the letters would be more than useful.
On another note...Is this the same Peter Kirby from West Valley Christian Church in Woodland Hills, Ca? I used to be a student at this school..my name is Larry Hill
i think you are doing great! i have probably referred thousands to your web site. thanks for all your hard work
Max at knowhowto.net
Text search of all documents for words.
When was the Apocrypha deleted from the original King James translation?
Bill at: brpvicco39@yahoo.com
shouldn't there be an access to an encyclopedia? right now I have been looking for ways to understand the meanings of "mystic" or the religious origin(s) of those meanings. I know there is an access to the Jewish encyclopedia in your papers on Job. shouldn't this access or a similar access be more visible ?
Dear Peter,
I think you ought to market behind Bathed by Light on lulu.
This is an audio of "The Gospel of Truth" and many would be pleased to be able to more deeply research what may be brand new to them.
Take a look/listen: http://lulu.com/bathedbylight
And publish here yourself!
I am promoting Dottor Ov'man online
Rosemarie
Could writings be set in chronological order?
I am trying to discern which great writer, Calvin or John Chrysondom is closer to the teaching,traditions and practices of the apostles and disciples.? Did they have a mass and a transubstantiated eucharist or a meeing and a meal of remembrance? Did they speak in tongues. Were their priest or preachers?
aetius@email.com
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peter is a batty
Keep up the good work!
Peter, what information do you have on the Essene Gospel of Peace? All I've heard so far was something about 3rd century mansuscripts. Let's see if we can get something up here. If you want, I could help. Either way...
http://neonostalgia.com/bible/forums/viewtopic.php?p=246#246
this is an awesome collection of early writings. And don't be surpised if you find them more true than what we are "allowed" to have according to the control freak churches. Jesus offered total freedom, Thomas is certainly our savior teaching, he taught it all to me in his Holy Spirit "before I ever read it", when I read it I about fell over. I understood all the metaphores except a couple and since then those have been revealed to me as well. The Kingdom "God/Jesus" is within you not above in the sky or below in the sea.
Also, my spit heals.
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I am looking for a older book by King with the simple name of "Gnostics,". This book supposedly has some pictures of the Arc of the Covanent. The discussion is regarding the Charebs.
Wally
bim82@vippn.com
1 8 05
Hi there,
I don't know if you consider this Jewish but I believe it is as it was written by Jews predominantly (a Syrian too). It is the Peshitta New Testament. Not only was it written by Jews, it is also in Aramaic, rather than Greek.
It is freely available on my website at http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com which has lots of other free stuff you are welcome to use.
Regards,
Christopher Lancaster
peshitta_enthusiast@hotmail.com
I haven't checked the other comments, but I like the set-up a lot. It'd be nice if we could get groupings other than proposed chronological order, such as grouping the canon together, grouping Gnostic documents together, grouping Church Father documents, then non-Biblical accounts of Jesus, etc. I think it'd also be nice for beginners to have a "basics of scholarship" type-thing, explaining the formation of the canon and whatnot, though I suppose that's already done to an extent in the Q part. Keep up the good work, Mr. Kirby!
I should start by saying how much I use your site and enjoy it before I submit my suggestion. I am keen that you do not view this as a critisism.
It would be nice if when looking at the list of documents, if we could see clearly what catagory the document is most understood to belong to. For example, could we have all canon books in green, all gnostic texts in blue, all missing texts in brown ... whatever ... this way it would be easier to find teh type of text that you are interested in.
Once again - great site.
I should start by saying how much I use your site and enjoy it before I submit my suggestion. I am keen that you do not view this as a critisism.
It would be nice if when looking at the list of documents, if we could see clearly what catagory the document is most understood to belong to. For example, could we have all canon books in green, all gnostic texts in blue, all missing texts in brown ... whatever ... this way it would be easier to find teh type of text that you are interested in.
Once again - great site.
How about Early Christian Writings on the aplicability of letters as christian doctrine such as Judas' which contain so much mixture of judaism and christianity.
St. Thomas
I just wanted to say that I think that this is an excellent site. Thank you for setting up and maintaining it. Best of luck with the overhaul.
Justin Meggitt, Institute of Continuing Education, Cambridge University
I wish to read a bit on Religious formation according to the church fathers
WHAT DID THE WRITINGS SAY ABOUT THE RESURRECTION
Wow! Thank you.
If there is a way to have individual works'likely dates accessible, that would be helpful. Origen, in particular.
I could not access Christianorigns.com.
Are any of the following available in Large Print? 1. Psoidepigrapha, Deaterocanon, Phio of Alexandria. Charles L. Schell. clschell@progressivetel.com
Indeed, your site is a most valuable resource (I've even cited the e-Catena in my thesis bibliography). In terms of layout, I actually rather like the rather clutter-free one that you have now; it loads very quickly and is easy to navigate. I understand, though, why some might want bells and whistles (or color, at least!) and something that would maken it more attractive.
I would say that since the e-Catena is in itself sucha valuable reference, it merits a more prominent link, so I suppose I can suggest that much. It would be great to see it updated further (or is this still being done?).
Anyhoo, ***thanks*** for all of your effort in compiling this site!
Matt F
OK, I looked at your template, and I must admit, it's brilliant. Bring it on! (:->
It seems that this page have a problem
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/josephus/war-3.htm
I would like to recommend the addition of the following two books:1. The Gospel of the Holy Twelve.(http://www.thenazareneway.com/ght_table_of_contents.htm)
2. The Essene Gospel of Peace: Book One (http://www.thenazareneway.com/essene_gospel_of_peace_book1.htm)
A topical reference index would be an outstanding help. Topics might include certain doctrines like the trinity, or sections dealing with Church councils...
The National Christian Association thinks the site is tremendous, an inspiration to students of Scripture. It is common to "improve" a thing until it is no longer easy to use. Keep like it is. www.nationalchristianassociation.com Jan 2005
I am a scholar of Christian and religious arcana and I find your site informative and useful. Keep up the great work!
Mad Doctor Tom
i congratulate you because this is one of the best website on the internet around the world. I have found problems with one of doveness and with rumor mill news . yours is mor original, sincere and subjected to God the most high. Personally i have doubts about the name of God is Yahweh, I could be wrong, but your website is unique.
thanks, totomtothe2@yahoo.com
How about a search engine. Everything else is great.
Cheers,
Clarice O'C
For a site called "Early Christian Writings" my request may be a bit oxymoronic, but here goes--I'd like a section on the oral gospel!!
P.S. Thanks so much for your site, I spend many happy hours on it.
I have bought your CD and am very pleased. One little bitty huge thing: how about a word search capability across all the texts? I am doing an analysis of 'Hell' and all its subtexts including the Hebrew word Sheol, Gehenna, Hades, etc. I would love to find other references from ALL the texts.
Jay Simpson
first timothy
Incredable site. Interested in esoteric commentary:
Philo of Alexandria, which you've done. Also
Gershom Scholem.
Can you please add a search component to this web site to search these texts?
Carpocrates
Looking for the style of Hebrew letter forms used in Torah 100 BC to 100 AD or BCE CE if you prefer
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josephus on Philo
josephus on Philo
I think a search engine capability would be great. For example, I am studying the anointing oil and the office of the High Priest. Wouldn't it be great if I could type in "anointing oil" and instantly search the entire earlyjewishwritings Web site for that phrase.
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I THINK IF YOU HAD SEARCH ENGINES IT WOULD ENHANCE STUDYING YOUR MATERIAL AND WOULD MAKE IT MORE VALUABLE. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. ALSO, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVIDED.
BARRY HOROWITZ
excellent website, I wrote earlier (josh.belcher@gmail.com) a search engine would be good too.
I want to understand why some texts cite SibOr 2, 73 as a source for the appearance of arsenokoites. josh.belcher@gmail.com
Is there a book by Noah? If so, where can I obtain a copy?
Including each text in its original language along with its English translation would be amazing. In your Dead Sea Scroll Section you could include photographs of the actual scrolls/fragments of the material along with the Block Hebrew text and the English translation. Did I mention that I love this site?
thank you for the site, I would ask if you would arrange the books under their headings in either chronological or alphabetical order. that would be wonderful.
thank you-religion major at dickinson college
Peter - I love this site, as well as the earlier ecw site. Some of the links you provide, though, have been disabled, such as the English translation for 2 Baruch. I did find a version at http://tcoto.klaxo.net/apo/pseudo/2baruch.htm.
Michael Compton (at University of Richmond)
mcompto2@richmond.edu
I'd love to have a search facility, either for all the texts or for a subset. Of course its use is limited by the fact that these are all in translation, but it would be very useful nevertheless.
Tech@Tyndale.cam.ac.uk
Ugg- when I posted my comment, I thought it went to you as an email, not as a blog. Please remove my email from where spam spiders can find it. Many thanks. (Tech@Tyndale....)
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Thanks for the fabulous site! I just noticed that your link to the on-line text for Jubilees no longer works.
Hi - thanks for this and your Early Christian Writings site! I've long wanted to read the hebrew scriptures and other relevant texts in the order they were written, as you've done with the ECWs. I know this is difficult, given the many author/editor/redactor voices in these texts, and would love some guidance - are there sources that propose to organize these chronologically, and perhaps discuss the challenges of dating them? Please feel free to email me at hookom@yahoo.com
Hi there,
I am on your CD waiting list and return often.
Wanted to know what happened to the listing for the Book of Enoch by R H Charles - will it be on the CD for instance?
Thank you
William Drysdale
whd@mountaincable.net
Is anyone currently taking care of this site? I was interested in purchasing CD's offered, but the link on "Ancient Writings" is not active. Thanks, Pam
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Hi Peter,
If possible, I would like to see some midrash made available online, along with an article about what it is, how much of it is out there, where it can be obtained, etc.
Thanks,
Kaz
Hello Peter - still loving these sites! What I'd like is a way to google w/in EJW the way I can in just ECW. Thanks!
I would like to see these posted in original languages, for more indepth study.
Thanks for the unexpected gift of Josephus and Philo-Judaeus. Regards, camdon1.
The Cat is Fat
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I'm sure many others have the same wish - more texts in the original languages. Easier said then done, I've no doubt!
I think your work is simply superb! Thanks. For research purposes, it would be *very* helpful if a moderately sophisticated search engine would be available to search those texts that are online (e.g. keyword, phrase, proximity searches, etc.). Also, it would be *very* helpful, if all works could be searched at the same time--instead of searching book by book or document by document. Could you include the Mishnah as well? By what date do you expect this to be finished? I would highly appreciate a notice when the CD is ready to be sold: Osterloth@gmail.com . Again, thanks for doing this project. Pax, Duane Osterloth
Include a "search this site"!
what was the reasoning for the apocrypha not being accepted in the canon?
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what was the reasoning for the apocrypha not being accepted in the canon?
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How wonderful to find these things on-line!! thank you. My suggestion is to mention the latin titles of, for example, Philo's works as well, as many of the works which refer to him use the latin titles. some of them, I can figure out the english, but not all.
Again, thank you for being here in web-land!
Hi... I have notices 4 Ezra come up on occasion in NT studies and also made mention of on your site. Is it available here?
Regards
Ian Packer, Sydney, Australia
I wish this was searchable acrossed multiple writting by word and subject and if the CD has this feature please let me know. thanks
Long Live Israel
do you know of any information showing that there were musical instruments in pre-70 A.D. synagogues?
I have accessed your page many times...just wanted to say it has helped me in more ways than you will ever know. Thanks for going through the trouble to post it all here..."free"
Best wishes,
Larry
Useful sight - thanks. (I'm doing a paper on Jewish apocalyptic and there are some helpful materials.) One problem I encountered was that I couldn't always get the whole article or book- it stopped 1/2 way through, cut off. Not too helpful!
jewish writings
jewish writings
deadea scrolls ? Geza Vermes
You should name the translator of Jewish War and Antiquities ON THE SAME PAGE-- what appear to be these identical texts are available on Project Gutenberg, with credit given to the original translator, William Whiston (1667-1752). People may think you are trying to pass this off as your own work.
I am interested in any early writings about the Nephilim and the Anakites, any insight into early ufo's or visiters, watchers, angles, out of body trips, star gate traveling. interiorsbycynthia@msn.com
sarkis
Hey Peter,
I was wondering if you were going to get Maimonides' works online? Or would you consider that too late to include here? The importance of his work, in my humble opinion, should not be overlooked. Let me know.
Chris Weimer
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Chris Weimer
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I am male,57 yr,jewish, but what counts more to me is; that I am in the handpalm of Elohim.
I love all mankind for Avinu shebashamaim loves all mankind too.
I live in the Netherlands, in the province of Groningen (up north)I would like to know how I can get the CD, and how I have to get you money for the CD. I thank you for this marvelous site, I had a lot of documerntation too, like letters from Caiaphas the priest and letters of Pontius Pilatus about the crusifixion.
Adonai Yevarekh otkhem
Henri Caspar Joseph Shreve
I WOULD SUGGEST TO ADD TO THE CD, LANCELOT BRENTONS ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THE SEPTUAGINT, LXXII WITH APOCRYPHA (DEUTEROCANONICAL).
For the love of everything! Please add a Jewish translation if this is going to be a site called "Early Jewish writings".
There's nothing Jewish about the middle age understanding of King James.
Judaica Press is a really good one to at the very least link to: (http://www.chabad.org/library/archive/LibraryArchive.asp?AID=63255)
Could you put a feature so that one could search
your site, please?
Could you add a search feature so readers could just search your site?
What a great website!!!
Would it be possible to get in here more texts in original language (hebrew, arameic, greek)?
What would be very helpful to my studies is a user friendly format of Midrash Rabbah and similar Jewish sources.
Max Kirk
Do copies exist of any of the Tanakh in Hebrew that pre-date the MT other than the DSS? How do I obtain access to them? If you have time to reply, I would appreciate it.
Bob (bb3902@fuse.net)
Some discussion of the origins, earliest copies, concensus of reliability, etc. of the Tanakh would be helpful. All modern commentary seems to be based on the MT, or back-translation assumptions from the LXX.
Ugg again. I thought I was sending an e-mail, not posting to a blog. Please remove my email address also. Bob (bb3902@....)
Fantastic, outstanding, excellent, simply the best resource material available online.
And its FREE!!!
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.
May the Lord bless you richly for your hard work.
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Perhaps an addition of the Septuagint (including the Apocryphia, something that http://septuagint.org/LXX/ lacks) and various codexes of the books (if posssible).
It would be wonderful to have the Mishnah and Talmuds available.
More original language texts would be great!
Jewish Spirituality - Buber, Heschel,etc.
wonderful for researchers! thanks!
I am witing for the CD and wish yoy all the best for your publications.
dr. Otto Mulder
Great site.
To be able to do a word search within a whole book and/or collection, i.e., Philo's works, would be fantastic.
peace,
carl
What an excellent resource you're furnishing here!! My only suggestion might be a section on related referential works mentioned in the existing canon of the Tanakh:e.g. Book of Lamech, Book of Jasher, Book of the Wars of the Lord, and the Book of Shemaiah the Prophet. Lamech may be Dead Sea Scroll related... but some concise editorial comment about these seldom mentioned apocryphal books and their subsequent forgeries would help fill in more gaps of one long, strange story. Thanx, bye!
cool beans
Provide more original language resources: preferably paginated so that one can cite them as if he had the book
Provide more original language resources: preferably paginated so that one can cite them as if one had the book
Would also like to read about and read texts of the Book of Azazel and any thing mentioning Lilith. Thank you.
More Psalms of David
im really jewish
I wander what was the language of speach and writing of the Israilites in Egypt before the Exodus?
stoning
it is very Good!
I'm a neophyte w/all this, and/but the chase is on. Have opened a "Christian Retail Store" on the Milwaukee, WI North Shore (of Lake Michigan).
The calling is to put a stake in the ground and create a welcoming, listening space for all who enter ... wherever they may be on the journey. A key element is to be attractive to clergy, academics and serious students as well as those seeking milk. The sensation I have in discovering your labor of love and related links is electrifying.
Please let me know when the CD is issued. Also, I tried to buy the "Early Christian Writings" CD, but the link is down.
Many thanks and blessings,
John M. DeVane III
Lemstone Christian Stores
Mequon, WI
mailto:mequon@lemstone.com
Phone: 262.241.5711
Fax : 262.241.5755
Cell : 414.331.6248
Can you tell me what is in the Early christain CD Eg Gnostics? Etc and what other CDs are avaiable and index of contents?
Paladin1
Do you have a time-line for the various books that are not part of the KJB? I'm particularly interested in the intertestamental bits
We want Targums!!! :)
I am looking for the galilean canons of jewish writings can you give a dicription of which books consist of this canon.
This link on the history of the Rechabites:
http://www.flyservers.com/members3/paleojudaica.com/rechabites.html
is broken. It conjures up a 404 message.
Yours,
Jeffrey
Perrhaps you can display the originals in Hebrew and Greek? Add extensive bibliographies and more scholarly references online. How about adding New Testament (Nearly all authors were Jewish), Church Fathers and Gnostic Writings? Perhaps some more on the Dead Sea Scrolls. THanks.
Jesse S. Burke
Will this site provide pages on the Documentary Hypothesis and its individual sources?
My studies are in the history of the early christians. Any help in this area would be appreciated.
the kemet and aigyptos temple
back
Did the King change his religion because he wanted to marry and the Catholic church would not agree? He killes his wife.
hello
A search engine to search the Apocrypha for keywords and such would be nice.
I am wondering if you should add the lesser key of Solomon
Michael
hello i am jemma
If this is Jewish WHY DO I SEE NON-JEWISH THINGS HERE?!? Such as christain editions to these JEWISH writings? As a Priest I get really annoyed when pissed off Jews come up to me and screem at me about this site... really you are making your self look like fools to the Jews and whats worst your giving Jesus a bad name.
Broken link: http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/ot/pseudo/2baruch.htm
Broken link: http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/ot/pseudo/2baruch.htm
Broken link: http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/ot/pseudo/2baruch.htm
you should have something that you type in whatever you want to translate into jewish hanwriting and then you click translate and it trnslates it into jewish handwriting.
I need search capability - you may have it and I just don't know what I'm doing. I'm looking for the records, the book of the Seers (referred to in 2 Chronicles 33:19 [specifically, I want to find the Prayer (repentance and prayer asking to be forgiven) of Manasseh.
When writings are referred to in the Bible, I would like to be able to go right to them.
This is my first visit to this site.
Thank you!
god
If I Were To Be Anything Id Be Your Hands For Various Reasons
I would like to see apocalyptic information before the Hebrew exile.
aLi
Ali
Are you a JW? The content of your articles suggests that.
Since you asked for input, I think it would be nice to see a little more detail on the links. Like for "Introduction to Genesis," you could either add bible.org or by David Mallick. There must be hundreds of introductions to Genesis. With titles like these, maybe you wanted to include only one introduction to Genesis. Still, it's a very comprehensive resource, and I appreciate the work you put into it.
Also, some links either didn't work in my browser or were outdated. I think if you look into it, you will find a program that automatically notifies you about dead links and may even give you the new link for URL changes.
You should have a section that lists all the appearences of angels and demons, along with what they did and their names. That would be extremely helpful for us trying to find the appearances of them in these books. Just a suggestion. ^^
what god told was to
more stuff about hotrods, and choppers and especially anything related to high-performance motorsports
Could you please add some things to the 'early christian writings' regarding evidence from Thallos eg. see here (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:pl-aQL5cPQQJ:www.tertullian.org/rpearse/syncellus/+thallos+eclipse&hl=en)
Thanks!
Hello. I like the site, but it seems two additions need ot be made.
1: The Septuegents Esther. I mean of coruse the additions made itnratextually. Not just the additiosn to CHapter 10 and added chapters 11-16. I happento be workign onhtis, if interested.
Also, the additions to Daneil, thouh preasent, cna be useful in a signle book for context. I am also working on this, and will send freely. I do not think they are cannonical, but I do hink they are improtant for research.
Site is back up, rock on!
TARGUM OF ONKOLOS IN ENGLISH
Hi! I think this site toghether with earlychristianwritings.com is very valauable and I use it quite often. I appreciate it very much. Please do not change the current simple layout for something "beautiful" which is hard to navigate. Perhaps two things would be nice:
- Add a google-search-prompt to your website, to make it easier to free-text-search all the resources on your site. This would be quite easy, I think, since Google will do all the work.
- Add a preliminary date range to the texts on the start page, just like on earlychristianwritings.com. I know the date range will be very wide for some disputed and/or redacted texts, but nevertheless it would be nice.
Sincerely,
Rikard Roitto, PhD-student at Link�ping University, Sweden, rikro@irk.liu.se
It is very difficult to find an English translation og the Mishna on the web. That would be very valuable to have on your site.
What would interest me would me articles that discuss or clarify, evidence of pre-adamic civilizations, more on The Divine Council, when the supercontinent separated into smaller continents, evidence of The Exodus Route and the Red Sea Crossing.
Thank you Michael
Paul Farmer
Hickory Withe, TN
It would be good to see Jewish sources for the Bible, giving a King James Version for the Tanakh seems out of place.
Thanks Peter for Early Christian writings CD just received, absolutely fantastic. So pleased with it. I miss all the old books I had but we cant take them with us to heaven - you can bring knowledge though. Thanks again. I shall get your Early Jewish Writings when I have money.
Peter,
My page for your "4 Baruch" (AKA "Paraleipomena Jeremiou," which I prefer) is now found at http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rs/rak/publics/pseudepig/ParJer-Eng.html
and the old "gopher" pages at UPenn have been transferred to
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher -- thus the beta code Greek of "4 Baruch" is now at http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/text/religion/biblical/pseudep/ParaleipomenaJeremiou.Greek
Thanks for all your work on these materials!
Bob Kraft, UPenn
picture of ancient writings materials like stone that God gave moses the ten commandments on tables of stone.
demetrios chronographer + exegete
What happened to JPS, the summaries, and all. They were a big help too! Bring 'em back! I really appreciate this site and your work on it, friend.
Thanks,
Ben Gold
brichva@gmail.com
Whatever happened to the academic comments on each text by the scholars?! When I click text name now, I go direct to text. I liked the way it was before!
I NOW HAVE A SEPTUAGINT - THE DIFERENCES IN WRITINGS OF SCRIPTURE IS AMAZING. PLEASE ELABORATE ON:
-CAIN'S DIVISION OF HIS SACRIFICE
-ZAPPORA FALLING AT THE FEET OF MOSES VS. THROWING THE SKIN AT HIS FEET.
-A LIGHT SUMMARY OF THE SEPTUAGINT AS TRANSLATED BY CHARLES THOMSON;SECRETARY OF THE CONTINENTAL CONGRESS OF THE USA, 1774-1789
HI MY NAME IS AMANDA
Please update the links to supposed primary texts. More primary texts for the pseudepigrapha would be great.
I think it would be interesting if there were some analytical discussions or discourses on the validity of the writings we have so that we can defend them better.
Estimated range of dating such as is found on the on the Early Christian Writings home page would be greatly appreciated.
A search engine would be nice . .
Where can i find the apocrypha in hebrew on the internet (scaned or written)
thank you.
yoni, israel
yoniharband@gmail.com
one of the =BEST= sites I've ever visited, (along with www.ccel.org, www.newadvent.org, www.sacred-texts.com, www.wikipedia.org, www.earlychristianwritings.com). It was about time somebody had this ideea !
Craciun Lucian,
luci83ro@yahoo.com
Peter, it would be nice to have the pointed Hebrew text as well. You might think about linking to files available at http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0.htm
-Apikorus
Your format has a SERIOUS ERROR. On the pages for the Apocryphal books of "Bel and the Dragon" and "Susanna", the header lists them as being from the King James Version. I understand that these are, as per the name of your website, "Early Jewish Writings"; but PLEASE make sure they are properly labeled as not belonging among the "cannon" of the Bible. While they may appear in some collections that are presented as holy scriptures, they appear neither in the "official cannon" nor in the old Hebrew books of the prophets.
Your format has a SERIOUS ERROR. On the pages for the Apocryphal books of "Bel and the Dragon" and "Susanna", the header lists them as being from the King James Version. I understand that these are, as per the name of your website, "Early Jewish Writings"; but PLEASE make sure they are properly labeled as not belonging among the "cannon" of the Bible. While they may appear in some collections that are presented as holy scriptures, they appear neither in the "official cannon" nor in the old Hebrew books of the prophets.
Your format has a SERIOUS ERROR. On the pages for the Apocryphal books of "Bel and the Dragon" and "Susanna", the header lists them as being from the King James Version. I understand that these are, as per the name of your website, "Early Jewish Writings"; but PLEASE make sure they are properly labeled as not belonging among the "cannon" of the Bible. While they may appear in some collections that are presented as holy scriptures, they appear neither in the "official cannon" nor in the old Hebrew books of the prophets.
Hi Peter,
I am with a company called BibleWorks. We are interested in providing Yonge's translayion of Philo to our users (free of charge). We'd be interested in using your text if you can tell us something about it's origin and who put it in electronic form. We don't want to step on anyone's toes. We just need to be absolutely sure it is PD before doing anything with it.
Great site! Thanks for all the work pulling it to gether.
Mike Bushell
The link for the "online text of the testament of moses" by R. H. Charles is broken.
If it is changed from:
http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/ot/pseudo/assumptionofmoses.htm
to:
http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/noncanon/ot/pseudo/assumptionofmoses.htm
It should work correctly.
thanks
-Dan
You have done a super job on this site!!! I love what you have done. The only thing is some of the references have been disabled but still worth the read!! D. Curran
I would like to see the Danby's Mishna translation.
I would like to see Danby's Mishnah translation added to the collection.
please i want to become a buduiesm person that is why i am seaching for that books of moses so try as much as you can and send me about onehundred copies of the books toshare among my friends.
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I find this a great resource (linked from my blogs).
I see the text of the Testament of Job is off line. Perhaps it is temporary?
The links on the third column of Philo are all broken. Great websites!!
-Jeff Querner
http://bahumuth.chaosnet.org
im just want to thank you,
because i never been found a complete webside like yours with almost everything,
ive been reading a lot of webside but none of them,
has everything like you,and the other webside of christian writings,for me is good,
although im a spanish speaking,i can undertand this language,it would be nice if you could add
a translator in your side for those who understand them native lenguage.,like babel fish,
although has problems in translating,
but is good too,
thank you
just thank you for this excellent job you do
I am called to deliver the Sign of Jonah as mentioned by Christ in Matt 12:39-42 and Luke 11. The depth and revelation of this sign has been hidden only to be revealed to herald the coming of Christ and up until now has been ambiguously glossed over by scholars and theologians as having been fulfilled by the three days and nights of Christ in the tomb and His resurrection; but it is much much more. Much interest from the Biblical world has arisen to this work.
I am currently doing research to back up this revelation and have very much enjoyed your site as a resource of personal interest in gaining knowledge that helps me know where to seek for further supporting evidence. However, I am currently trying to find the 17 books mentioned in, but not included in the Bible. I see a few of them on your site,
neet2005@gmail.com
How can I write following in the hebrew lettering?
If you have time to add new content, the Aramaic targums (Jewish Aramaic interpretive translation of certain books of the Hebrew Bible) would be a useful addition. I believe there is more than one type of Targum.
epigraphs
Hi,
Some of the links do not work, eg. http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/text/philo/book4.html.
Regards,
Sami Yli-Karjanmaa
University of Helsinki
provide dating for books?
Is it possible to inlcude the Targums? Don;t know if it falls into this category?
Book of Jasher
Are there any writings from Noah left telling of the healing herbs? I read og the writing of a book in the book of Jubilees by Noah after the angels taught him. Herbal medicine is very important and if any of the text is available it would be a wondrous addition to what we currently know. Thak you , Linda Moran
I love reading and studing the different books that were around when the books of the Bible were put together. If the leaders of the day had notdisregarded these books, some of them may have been in Bible, also those books in the Early Christian Writings New Testament.
Could we have more than the KJV translation, possibly NIV ? Thank you..........Harold
hwelbow3@paonline.com
letter of aristeas
Is this cd available in the New Revised Standard Version?
Is the CD available in the New Revised Standard Version?
sir i don't want people telling me about the books i want to read them myself
A note to offer you best wishes for you and your site. I am not mysef a Jew, but I have opened up the odd book that appears on the site. I look at it from the viewpoint that these are traditions that are worth preserving and that they are a history of ideas which preserve the old landmarks.
One item that I have found of interest in the site is the Revelation of Ezra, but as yet I canot place where its origin lies. Wallace Weir
It would be very useful to have introductory material to the Old Testament books, just as to the New Testament ones, rather than just the text!
do you have a search engine in this?
Hello PK-
You asked for suggestions big and small. OK!
Here's one. Any extant material from Syria or surrounding areas from around, say, 10 BCE to 20 CE? I'm working on the Jesus/Archelaus thesis and all I got was this T-shirt and Josephus.
Actually, of course, any writing from this era would be welcome.
Thanx!
Charles
No Targumim on the Jewish Writings site?
Shalom, and thank you soooo much for such a wonderful source of study materials.
One concern, however:
In Philo of Alexandria section, Special Laws II, in intro section it says; F,H, Colson writes(Philo vol.7 pp304-305); fourth (festival) is passover, fifth is unleavened bread, and so on.
But then, in section XI(41)[yonge's treatise] the list is different, i.e; it's rearranged, with no mention of pentecost/50th day.
Then in sections XXVII, XXVIII, XXIX,XXX, etc., it follows the order laid out in the intro.
Thank you, again. shalom aleikhem!
I am jewish, is it normal to cut your penis off?
shalom to you all, do any of you know where i could get my willy snipped because its so big i need to take of a few meters
I think it's a fantastic service to humanity, like Early Christian Writings. Thank you so much.
About the only suggestion I could make is the same structure as Early Christian Writings. Hard to improve on that.
Thanks again,
Rick
Hello, could you post the Song of the "Three Holy Children"? It's another book of the Apocrypha that many sites don't mention, I'm trying to find all of the non-canonical "Scriptures" out there for a study (Apocrypha, Pseudepigraha, OT/NT, etc. Just of the Judeo-Christian). Also, if you would, post any information of copywrite notices that would be great. I haven't seen all the pages yet, but would hope they are all public domain so I can use them. Oh, and if you want to you can use the same reading method for all the texts you provide.
Such as:
[1] Verse.
[2] Verse.
[3] Verse.
(Not a biggie, just if you have extra time and want to do something. I don't really care, just a suggestion.)
Thank you.
Hey, I'll correct myself with the "Three Holy Children" comment. I feel silly, I just figured out it's the same as "Prayer of Azariah." Sorry, but I did notice one other thing, you don't have the prologue to the "Sirach." That's all, thanks.
I would like to know about monarchial rule in israel.Its introduction,effects ,origin,implications and conclusion.
I love the chronological list at earlychristian writings.com, and would really like one on this site, too...many thanks for this work! It's a great help....now if I could just find the Priene Inscription online....
Dawn@AllenHerron.net
I love the chrononogy list at earlychristianwritings.com, and would like one at earlyjewishwritings.com, as well. Now if I could just find a copy of the Priene Inscription online....
Link to the Apocalypse of Zephaniah, english translation, does not work; page not found.
This being my first visit to your site, I have to say it's very functional, albeit somewhat spartan. Maybe you could add some graphics; say, apocryphal or apocalyptic paintings of antiquity, or, perhaps some Kabbalist sacred geometrical patterns?
THANKS for crafting this and your other sites
In "www.earlychristianwritings.com" you have the books and other writings arranged chronologically by their approximate dating and I think a similar arrangement for the early Jewish writings would be helpful. I am greatly interested in reading the Jewish writings in the order they were written so as to discern the development of religious thought, doctrine, etc. While most biblical scholars date Amos as perhaps the oldest book in the Hebrew bible, I've yet to find a book or web site arrange the books by approximate date, although some arrange the book by chronology of the events described within the books which is not what I want. If you know of a source that displays the approximate dating of early Jewish writings I would be most greatful if you could pass on this information.
Sincerely,
Craig Duckett
craigd@control-z.com
what has happened to the online text for 2 baruch? could you please find out how to access it and provide the correct link, thankyou
Greetings,
Thanks for the opportunity for input. I am interested in the lunar calandar of the Israelites, expecially for 6BCE, 4BCE, 29CE, and 31CE. Is there a comprehensive collection of these calendars in sequence?
Sir I was brought up as an adherent of the Church of Scotland. I becaame a Freemason and found myself drawn to Judaic writings via my masonic teachings. Would it be possible that you could have a chapter in your excellent website devoted to Brethern and Companions who wish to learn more about the basis of thier craft.
Psalms of Solomon
Translated from Greek and Syriac by G. Buchanan Gray
http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/ot/pseudo/psalms-solomon.htm
Dead link - sorry :(
Early Jewish Writings is something that was missing from the web. I use some of your material. My web address is: www.jesuschristwins.com.
Yours
Charis Alexandrou
It would be great to have the option to download the documents as a PDF document. It's much easier than cut and paste and the pdf reader is a free download from Adobe. This may be too much work on your part but I think there would be more downloading of material with this as an option. Thanks.
These are not "Jewish" writings... They are Hebrew writings... a big difference...
It would be great if there was a search engine for topics or key words within the text.
Do you have a word search? It would make the website tremendously more helpful.
Also, I couldn't find in Josephus's War a quote of someone that gave the page number (e.g. Josephus, War 6.297-99). Would it be possible to have the text divided the same way it's done on the books?
BUT GREAT WEBSITE!
Many of the links pointing to Wesley Center Online (the RH Charles translation) are ineffective. Try the new address: http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/noncanon/pseudepigrapha.htm
Hi, I just wanted to report a broken link... its the link to the Jubilees text translated by R.H. Charles. The link should be http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/noncanon/ot/pseudo/jubilee.html
Mary
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